Gasol to the Bulls? (Bulls offer Gordon, Brown, and a 1st)

Gasol to the Bulls? (Bulls offer Gordon, Brown, and a 1st)

Postby MaSSaCrE on Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:52 pm

So you take Ben Wallace and throw in Ben Gordon and the No. 1 pick and …

Just want to get that out there first. Nah, the Bulls aren't about to trade Wallace, though this signing has the early earmarks of disaster with Wallace drawing a line in the sand with coach Scott Skiles in Headbandgate. (I actually hate that every scandal gets a Watergate suffix and promise never to use it again). I didn't see anyone second-guessing the signing when it occurred, so it would be hypocritical to condemn it now.


What the Bulls need to do is provide some help for Wallace, assuming they can work out this power play between their second-highest-paid player ever and their most successful coach since Phil Jackson.

It's clear Wallace is not the player the Bulls expected, but he's not done yet either. If not a force, he can be a good piece. It appears, though, he needs some offense along the front line so he can come off the weak side more to rebound and regain his enthusiasm. The Memphis Grizzlies long have said Pau Gasol is untouchable, but maybe he isn't so much anymore.

There were reports this weekend that the Boston Celtics had interest in Gasol. There were also whispers in recent weeks that Gasol's floating timetable to return from foot surgery is more about concern with the uncertainty surrounding the Memphis organization. The Grizzlies are up for sale, with general manager Jerry West and coach Mike Fratello probably gone after this season.

The word around the organization is that the team can't win with Gasol after being shut out in the playoffs the last three years, so a deal is inevitable. Plus, with Hakim Warrick, Rudy Gay and Kyle Lowry, the latter injured now, looking like good, young pieces, it's probably a good time for the Grizzlies to make a commitment to rebuild. Their season is almost lost already after a poor start.

And no one has more pieces for rebuilding than the Bulls.

The future is now for the Bulls because of Wallace. It's not likely his large and long contract could be traded at his age, so you've got to put together a team to win with him now. Plus, the East has never been more wide open and the Bulls still could get to the Finals. They've shown the last two seasons they finish stronger than anyone.

Without damaging their core, the Bulls could offer the No. 1 pick they get to swap with the Knicks (though they'd have to keep No. 1 as overall protection if Greg Oden is available and have some alternative), Chris Duhon and Tyrus Thomas. P.J. Brown probably would have to go along to make the numbers match. Because Memphis figures to have a very high lottery pick of its own, it would have two No. 1s in what looms as a great draft, plus the highly regarded Thomas and a point guard. They'd have a nice young roster, though some names could change in the deal, and the Bulls would have a 7-foot inside scorer—if not a true back-to-the-basket player—to complement Wallace's defense and to give Gordon more room with interior play.

There, I solved it again.
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Postby nameant on Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:59 pm

Gasol isnt worth all that. they should offer a package around Ben Gordon. giving up Duhon, a 1st rounder, TT, AND PJ? :man11: right.
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Postby MaSSaCrE on Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:02 pm

Duhon
TT
Brown
1st Rounder

for Gasol.

Do it.
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Postby nameant on Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:08 pm

are they talking about our 1st rounder or the Knicks? the Knicks will be top 5. possibly #1. :man4: what if we traded ours and the Knicks got hot, then Kirk, Gordon, Deng, and Wallace got hurt and we ended up getting the #1 pick but already traded it to Memphis? :man10:

call me crazy. I'd rather trade Gordon than Duhon.
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Postby MaSSaCrE on Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:10 pm

^ Really. I think Gordon can be one of the top scorers in the league. Wallace, Gasol, Deng, Nocioni, Gordon, Hinirch = Dynasty..well sort of. :man10:
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Postby nameant on Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:12 pm

yeah I like Gordon I just dont think he's the best fit. he's also a very valuable trading piece. the guy is always going to be streaky, he's never going to be a PG, and he's always going to be a matador tweener. his best role is coming off the bench and providing instant offense, but if his shot isnt falling, he's basically worthless (ala Brian Cook).
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Postby iceberg on Sat Dec 02, 2006 10:33 pm

ben gordon...brian cook....no. not really a good comparison. gordon when he makes a concious effort to get to the basket, he does it effectively. he also has a nice medium range jumper and i believe he'll be fairly consistant as the season goes on, especially down the stretch and in the playoffs. i wouldn't make any moves and wait to see what the pick is. if it's anything besides the number 1 (oden) i would trade it for either a solid post player\defender or a tall, athletic, defensive 2 guard. tyrus is gonna move into the starting 4 spot when PJ's contract is up, they're going to need someone to back him up as sweetney will also be gone. i think they could find a defensive 2 guard with one of the second rd pick they have. bam, problems are solved and you didn't have to move any pieces. play tough this year and be competitive, make it out the 1st rd at least...then next year they'll be ready to make a serious push
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Postby nameant on Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:17 am

I wasnt comparing them. I was saying they are used in the same way. instant offense. Ben is a scorer right now in his career, that's it. his job is to go out there and make shots.
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Postby Everlast24 on Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:46 pm

i would do it just find someone else to give up instead of ttime i think he will be better than gasol
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Postby WRIGLEY_FAN_11 on Tue Dec 26, 2006 2:26 pm

i dont want to see em give up both tyrus and their first round pick cause that pick could potentially be #1 or at least way up there cause they get to switch with the knicks so they should be careful about throwing it away especially with another young player
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